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Lol!! I love how off-topic our threads get 83

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lol XD

So anyone else have any thoughts on Atlanta being vegan?

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She'd SO be vegan. 83 I bet you she wouldn't even drink MILK! She'd have to consume soy. XD

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She does drink soy milk. She stated this in the Eris episode.

Archie: Yeah! Well, who's always drinking the milk right out of the carton???
Atlanta: *gasp* I don't even drink milk I drink soy milk!!

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Point for Emily.

So...then...if Atlanta were vegan why would she care what kind of eggs the others buy? Cause...it's not like she'd eat them XD

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It's the principle of the matter!

If you had some deep-rooted personal beleifs, you'd expect the people you live with to respect them.

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*has not seen the entire series yet* :3
Well, why would she eat eggs at ALL? Eggs are TECHNICALLY baby chicks. 8|

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Xtream Emily wrote:

It's the principle of the matter!

If you had some deep-rooted personal beleifs, you'd expect the people you live with to respect them.




Yeah but they can still respect her personal beliefs without having to sacrifice what they. It's not like they'll try peer pressuring her into eating eggs or force them down her throat. They'd respect that she doesn't eat them...so why can't she respect and accept that they do? Respect is a two way street.

 

And Andrea don't worry the eggs have nothing to do with the show. It's just me throwing the idea out there that she's vegan, and the whole egg thing came from something Emily had posted earlier.



-- Edited by LovesDarkness on Wednesday 3rd of March 2010 02:14:58 AM

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*logs in breifly to answer this one question*

It's not about respecting whether or not people eat eggs, it's about the type of eggs that are eaten.

I personally don't eat eggs. I can't stand them. But I expect the eggs my family to buy to be free range. As does my step father. Because neither of us want to support caged chickens in anyway shape or form.

It'd be like, I don't know, if you were living with someone who bought a random product of a particular brand which used slave labour or something (going a tad bit extreme to prove my point here), even though there are plenty of other exact products from different brands which don't use or promote slave labour. Wouldn't you throw it out there that they shouldn't be supporting such a company because slave labour is immorale?

It's the same with caged eggs. Animal cruelty (which it is) is immorale. And it shouldn't be supported. Well, that's how I think of it and that's how I believe Atlanta thinks. Since we're both environmentalists and stuff.

And she also has the influence and (let's be honest) temper to back up her beliefs. With force if necessary.

Besides. It's been proven that eggs from caged chickens have less nutrition. (B

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Yeah...true...guess you have a point there. Either way tho...it comes down to everyones different preferance and opinion...and tho you may not agree with them you can't force them on someone. Everyone feels differently about everything.

EMILY I MISS YOU I'M SO LONELY T.T

-- Edited by LovesDarkness on Wednesday 3rd of March 2010 06:58:14 AM

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Ah, but Atlanta seems like the sort who would get pretty preachy about her beliefs.

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Yeah...and if she started in on Haileigh, she'd swiftly find a carton of eggs shoved down her throat...carton and all XD. If there's one thing she can't stand it's people pushing their beliefs on her and trying to force her to agree.

Which is why it's good that Haileigh has her own apartment and doesn't live in the dorms...she can buy whatever eggs she feels like buying XD lol I can see her with Pan.

Pan: Haileigh is totally cute...I like her.
Atlanta: D: But...but...SHE DUN BUY FREE RANGE EGGS!!!

I IS ON!!! I never leave the page...I always has a tab open to it T.T It needs to make some sort of noise to let me know you're on T.T

Anywho...4:07 am for me...I's is off to bed.

-- Edited by LovesDarkness on Wednesday 3rd of March 2010 09:10:58 AM

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....Actually, there's a difference in taste between free range and organized. 8D
I only buy free range, NOT for the sake of the animals...but for the simple fact that they taste SWEET. While any other kind of eggs taste...Ianno. Not so sweet. Kinda sour.

But I bet Atlanta doesn't even think to consider that.

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*stamps APPROVED on this certain topic*

There's also a lot of animal cruelty in stuff such as cleaning products, hair dye, toothpaste, makeup, ect. Almost ALL of the big brands you see on television use animals to test their products on, which is unnecessary and cruel. The cleaning products and whatnot my family buys is from companies against cruelty to animals AND are made from natural ingredients as well, and we find them to work just as well (if not better) than the big brand name stuff.

Look up Leaping Bunny for more imformation. (B

I believe Atlanta would approve of this. *nodnod*

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*imagines Atlanta in a bunny suit*.....*lols*

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I think there's a certain line in the middle where Atlanta stays- she's more forceful with her beliefs than some may be comfortable with, but she's not gonna shove it down your throat.
*Lols at the idea as well*

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*thinks about Atlanta in a PLAY BOY bunny suit* (B .....*not aroused* :|

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I never understood why playboy bunnies would be sexy in any way. 8/

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Yeah. I stopped playing with plastic dolls years ago. :)

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I do not find a bunny suit sexy whatsoever

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Neil: !!! *walks away, wearing his sexy man shorts with a cotton tail, bunny ears, bow tie and nothing else* ):

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I must disagree with that statement :3

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Neil makes anything sexy.

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....Okay, well, on people like Neil....it's fine.

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On nobody it's fine. It's the people IN the bunny suit that are fine. Which means they could be quite "Fine" without the trouble of having to hump the fur >.

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I find a bill and feathers to be sexier anyways. XD

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Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. 83

...Though really, the sexiest of all would be a set of horns and angry eyes.
Maybe TWO sets of horns.
God, horns are AWESOME.

...
SO UHH ANYWAY.
I wonder what it'd be like if Cronus adopted the kids and became their loving surrogate father?

-- Edited by Bandkanon on Sunday 7th of March 2010 07:54:35 AM

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFno.

XDDD

Although I did like his caringness in 'Forget Me Not'... Why couldn't he be that nice to start out with?

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Herry: *looks at Odie* Maybe you were adopted. 83
Priceless. XD

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MY guess is that Cronus actually IS that nice, deep down, but his fears and angors and contempt for the other Gods and yadda yadda has WARPED HIM. 83

Everything he's ever done has mostly been out of fear. Haven't you noticed?
The poor thing. +Pats Cronus on the head+
Cronus: +Chops the Bri's hand off+ Don't TOUCH me. I'll get germs. B/
('B He's such an inspiration.

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Lozzles! I agree! Deep down he has a hidden store of nicey-ness :D

And about the bill and feathers, Emily... does this mean you would be attracted to the Playboy Flamingo?? 0_o

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ROFL she COULD be. xD
But actually no.
She's attracted to DANGER DANGER DUCK.

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I UNDERSTAND NOW XD

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AND DAFFY DUCK!

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AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF OTHER DUCKS. >__>

Cronus ruled during the Golden Age, right? Doesn't that imply he was a GOOD leader. He must be caring to a certain extent. :)

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YES.
YES EXACTLY.
I think his case is very much like any other case: He WENT bad, because of bad events.

IT'S A LOT LIKE THE GRUDGE!!!
Hermes: +Facepalm+ Stop watching that.
8D I'M ALMOST DONE WITH THE THIRD AMERICAN MOVIE. THEN I'LL STOP.


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*now remembers the name of that movie* :3 That was KILLING me.

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Oh, you and your obsession with Horror. xD

I noticed the teens, mostly the girls, like watching horror movies a lot. This makes me very very happy.

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PSHT. I only watch those movies so Andrea and I can make fun of the idiots in them.
Andy: That's right, little girl, RUN!
Monster in TV: ROOOOOAAAAAAWWWWWWRRRRR =D
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Monster: OMNOMNOM =D
Both of us: -_-
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If those retards in those sorts of movies just LISTENED TO ME... They'd still be alive. T__T

*hates horror*

>__>

I bet all the teams watch horror films and are all, "Meh."

Let's be honest. They've faced scarier things. :)

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Neil: PSHT. That evil wax figure calls that a 'javelin throw to the head'? I've done better javelin throws to the head than that.
Jay: Neil, I throw all the javelins. You just sit in a corner and stare at yourself.
Neil:.......I'm sorry what was that? I was too busy staring at myself. (B
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UPBRINGING, AS I HAVE PUT WAAAY TOO MUCH THOUGHT INTO THIS:

Jay: Single child in a family that I think were high-school sweethearts and I think, not entirely sure why- but I think it's the bond Jay has with his mom in the mothers day episode- Jay's parents married in/just out of high school as his mother became pregnant during their senior year in high school and his parents managed to find love and romance in their relationship. I see them living in the suburbs as a middle-class family. I also see Jay either living in Vancouver or in Ontario(around the Great Lakes) or even being a Newfoundlander- even though he doesn't have the accent. He spends a lot of time in Greece too with his extended family.

Odie: Comes from a lower-class family, possibly immigrant, in the city with probably lots (as in two to three) of much younger siblings and his parents are too busy with those kids and working so Odie does/did spend a lot of time alone growing up and did a lot of computer/technology-related things, and focused on academics in order to get a good-paying job to support his family. I don't see Odie resenting his family for not being so attentive to him, but feeling even more protective but also socially inadequate because of being cut off by his family and by himself. I see him living in Toronto or Ottawa.

Herry: Grew up as only child under Granny- I believe his parents either died or abandoned him on her doorstep, or possibly he was removed from their care due to conditions such as his parents being neglectful/drugs/alcohol, but I don't think Herry's ever been abused. Granny loved to travel so Herry got a taste of the world and learned to love people a lot but was mainly friends with adults because he always hurt kids his age- accidentally. He's not accademically smart- Granny believed in street-smarts, not book smarts- and has been homeschooled due to his world-travels with Granny. They're fairly well off due to Granny's retirement fund (and I bet Herry's late grandpa was totes rich too) and live in a farm in Saskatchewan.

Atlanta: Grew up in a very rural town in northern Canada (I'm thinking the territories waaaaay up North) and really was a rebel because there wasn't anything else for her to do. And so with the rest of the town being hard on her for being all different she's all 'you can't tell me what to do!'. I see her as being the youngest with one or two much older brothers who have like, left the town because they could never stand it and dropped all relations with the family so that's why Atlanta's all independant because she feels she has to be.

Theresa: Split family, when she was a child, and I would assume because of an affair her mother had. Theresa's dad kept custody of her and became very work oriented to keep his mind off the divorce and be sure his daughter could have a perfect life. I think he genuinely cares about Theresa and wants the best for her, but loses siught of ther fact that she'd love to have her father around. Theresa probably is an only child- potentially with a half-sister who is always nasty to her and I don't think Theresa's ever really had (a) very close friend(s) but grew up with all the proper lessons, like riding, piano, singing, art and such. She's totally Brittish and speaks several other languages like French, Spanish and some German.

Neil: I think Neil had a model mother who was all about eating disorders and binge drinking and having a good time at parties every day and his dad was one of the famous musicians she took home and maybe managed to hold onto for a few weeks/maybe months. Neil probably never had a constant positive male figure and his mother was never very supportive and Neil probably took care of her a lot more too. And she'd probably lash out at him because she never really wanted a child and probably felt like he was the ruin of her life. But she also probably used him a lot too and on good days, when all was good, taught hin the ropes because he was an uber-gorgeous boy and was going to be the hottest model one day. Neil's totally been spoiled, but lost that human touch in the process. Neil's also totally French, fo sho.

Archie: Archie for sure comes from a very poor, split home and I see him being the younger brother, his sister-or-brother lived with the mother and then split from the family as soon as they could. Being the youngest, Archie was probably shipped back and forth between the parents for whomever wanted him at the moment because of his anger problems and tendancy to fight and be a problem. I see his mother meeting a new man and wanting to start a new life and not wanting him around anymore because she was going to have a baby and didn't want Archie's bad influence on the baby- and probably telling him this the last time she spoke to him- and then kicking him out. His father is either a drug addict or more likely an alcoholic and very likely abusive (probably why his parents split but his mother believed his father would never actually hit their kid or she actually didn't care) Archie has no family support and his dad probably kicks him out a lot and he doesn't have anywhere to go. I see him just barely having kept out of gangs and drugs (they probably aren't effective due to his immune system- another theory I have) when Hermes showed up. Archie isn't trustful of people because no one's been very kind, which is why he wanted to leave asap in the beginning of the show. He's also a hardcore German.

Yeah, WOW. Way too much thought into this, ahahaha.

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*stamps APPROVAL on everything Demenior said*

IT'S LIKE...

YOU READ MY MIND!!! 8D

Except I don't think Herry's dad is dead. I just think he's crazy busy driving trucks for a mining company like his bio page says... So busy that Herry never really knows him. But he appreciates the fact that he's making money to pay for his schooling and Granny's medical bills. :)

*doesn't want Herry to be orphaned* >__>

I also always saw Odie as being the younger sibling. It seems to match his need to prove himself...

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You know Demenior...I appreciate all the thought and effort you put into their backgrounds but...it kind of bothers me how, except for Jay...you gave all of them rather horribly dark backgrounds. It's kind of...disturbing.

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Lol! Half of these aren't horribly dark backgrounds. Certainly not. And a lot of it could easily be considered. There are, however, certain factors that don't follow canon...

And just cause I REALLY don't wanna read Shakespeare, I'm going to analyse and evaluate Demenior's background ideas...

Jay: Single child (I have always believed this. In Chaos 101 we see no introduction to siblings, even though Jay's home is shown twice. Also, in Road to Hades, there is no vision of brothers or sisters in Jay's flashback) in a family that I think were high-school sweethearts and I think, not entirely sure why- but I think it's the bond Jay has with his mom in the mothers day episode- Jay's parents married in/just out of high school as his mother became pregnant during their senior year in high school and his parents managed to find love and romance in their relationship. (The series first aired in 2005, and if we are to assume that this was the year the show was set in, then that would mean Jay and most of the others were born in 1989. This coincides nicely with the idea that Jay's parents were married young, seeing as their attire in Jay's flashback in Road to Hades was the sort typically worn by young people in the 80's (white suit with short pants-legs, mullet, fluro tights, frills and big hair? Mum hates that era passionatlyXD)) I see them living in the suburbs as a middle-class family. (Down here, only bogans in the 80's wore that shiz. Dunno but you North Americans, but higher class women would've been wearing the shoulder-padded suits. For an interesting comparisson, look at Jay's parents in his flashback, then look at what Theresa's dad was wearing in the photos shown in Many Happy Returns... Similarities? No. That's because Theresa's dad is a rich businessmen.) I also see Jay either living in Vancouver or in Ontario(around the Great Lakes) or even being a Newfoundlander- even though he doesn't have the accent. (I don't know anyhing about Canadian areas, so these suggestions will be ignored) He spends a lot of time in Greece too with his extended family. (I also see this. Greeks typically have big family communities with whom they are largely involved. This stems from ancient Greek ideals surrounding the oikos. Most ancient oikos (homes) studied in Athens show a consistency accross architectual designs in that the front of the house contained a number of rooms for entertainment, while at the back of the house there were the fundamental rooms required for everyday living (kitchen, bedrooms, etc.). And both areas were often divided by a corridor. This shows that in ancient Greece, houses were built with the intention of holding social gatherings. There wasn't a clear distinction between 'private home' and 'outside world'. Think of 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' a little. As Jay's mother is Greek, then it's very likely that she has a large family, or at least a vast home community she has to visit every once in a while. Also, I like the idea of Jay having that extra little bit of foreign culture internalised within him. It makes his character more appealing (to me, anyway))

Odie: Comes from a lower-class family, possibly immigrant, (I don't agree with this. Odie seems like your straightforward African Canadian (Mr. Goodchild stated that Odie was such). There really isn't any evidence of his socio-economic background either. Looking back at his home in Chaos 102, it seems like a nice neighbourhood, although the family garage is a bit of a dump. But then again, it's likely that Odie used the garage for his own mechanical and technological purposes... And we've all seen how he keeps his room.) in the city with probably lots (as in two to three) of much younger siblings and his parents are too busy with those kids and working so Odie does/did spend a lot of time alone growing up and did a lot of computer/technology-related things, (This could explain Odie's level of maturity, but again, there isn't any evidence to back it up. If anything, his need to prove some semblence of capability in regards to physical strength could have stemmed from an older sibling needing to defend him all the time. But again, this is just speculation) and focused on academics in order to get a good-paying job to support his family. (Plausible, but I feel that Odie's technological interest came forth as a choice rather than a need (and let's not forget his genes). I also believe that if his family had some form of disadvantagement in their everyday life, then it would have been emphasised in the series (like Herry caring for his Granny from time to time... She's otherwise a useless character) I don't see Odie resenting his family for not being so attentive to him, but feeling even more protective but also socially inadequate because of being cut off by his family and by himself. I see him living in Toronto or Ottawa.

Herry: Grew up as only child (Yes. Because when we see the photos in Granny's house in 'Prisoner Campe', there is no evidence of other siblings. And if a grandmother was travelling, why would she take one grandchild and not others? Perhaps she couldn't afford to take more than one at a time, you might say. In my childhood, when my mother went to the mainland to visit family, she took each of us kids once in turn. Matthew one year, Tim another, Mandy and I together, then Ben. One might argue that perhaps she did take Herry's 'siblings', but their photos were elsewhere... All I can say to that is... Wtf? Why has she got a Herry shrine? She seems much too much like the doting sort anyway (note how she pinched Herry's cheeks in 'Chaos 102') to stack all of Herry's photos in one area and hide her other grandchildren's photos in the back room or something. It's just not right!) under Granny (Nnnnnnnnnnnnope. As my German teach would say, 'Richtig oder Falsch? ...Falsch!' Observe Herry's first scene in Chaos 101. He's out the back of whoop-whoop, balancing along a fence with a traditional-looking red barn and rolls of hay chilling behind him (don't forget the cow moo). Now cast your mind to his visit with Granny in Chaos 102. 'We-heh-hell! Look at you! You've grown into quite a strong young man!' *facepinch* Does this not imply, then, that Granny has not seen Herry in a long time? If he were being raised by her, she wouldn't suddenly say that. And the fact that she has a house on the outskirts of New Olympia (I say outskirts because the woods open up right into Granny's backyard (as seen in Man's Worst Enemy and Mother Knows Best), which, in Man's Worst Enemy is where Cerberus is chased from and towards the cityscape of New Olympia. However, the fact that Herry rocks up from time to time shows it's driving distance of the City. Hence, outskirts.) contradicts the farm-scene Herry first appears in. So, no. Herry was not raised by Granny) - I believe his parents either died or abandoned him on her doorstep, or possibly he was removed from their care due to conditions such as his parents being neglectful/drugs/alcohol, but I don't think Herry's ever been abused. Granny loved to travel so Herry got a taste of the world and learned to love people a lot but was mainly friends with adults because he always hurt kids his age- accidentally. (While there is no evidence of this, it's a good supposition. Just like the common belief that Odie was picked on coz he's a nerd and Archie got into heaps of fights as a kid coz he's an angry warrior. Besides, in mythological stories Herakles killed a few people accidentally (his music teacher springs to mind... Lol. XD 'I DUN WANNA PLAY THE LYRE!' *headsmack* *brainimplode*) so it can be assumed that Herry experienced similar moments of accidental brutality, as they both have a quick temper. Remember Disney's Hercules? Yeah. Kinda like that. It would thus explain Herry's 'gentle giant' attitude and his politeness towards his elders (the old people in Mazed and Confused and Persephone in Cold Day in Hades are good examples)). He's not accademically smart- Granny believed in street-smarts, not book smarts- (Brigid pointed out Herry's street-wise attitude and his bio in Wikipedia makes a good point when stating that "-he can be improvisational and learn to use just about anything when the need arises. While resourceful in this way, he doesn't seem to be particularly bright." 'Nuff said. Although the same article does hint towards him being raised by Grany.) and has been homeschooled due to his world-travels with Granny. (I don't think so. As I stated before, Herry didn't spend his entire childhood with Granny. I'd also like to take this moment to point out that the photos in Prisoner Campe seem quite recent... He has sideburns in them all. He wouldn't have had sidies at, say, 13... It's possible... But also a little weird.) They're fairly well off due to Granny's retirement fund (and I bet Herry's late grandpa was totes rich too) (Agreed. Granny's house is really nice. :3 ) and live in a farm in Saskatchewan.

Atlanta: Grew up in a very rural town in northern Canada (I'm thinking the territories waaaaay up North) (Well, she was close enough to wildlife that she could hunt deer and battle angry pumas) and really was a rebel because there wasn't anything else for her to do. (Reminds me of the Smithtonites further up the North-West coast of Tassie... Don't have anything 'stimulating', so the graffiti shiz and break stuff, although I don't see Atlanta doing this. I see her as being influenced by her remote surroundings to take up sports and hunting in order to be productive. It also explains her environmentalism) And so with the rest of the town being hard on her for being all different she's all 'you can't tell me what to do!'. (Atlanta's clearly like this throughout the series, but if you look closely, she's VERY polite with elders and whatnot (Gaia and Demeter are good examples)) I see her as being the youngest with one or two much older brothers who have like, left the town because they could never stand it and dropped all relations with the family so that's why Atlanta's all independant because she feels she has to be. (I kind of agree with brothers, but only half brothers... Or maybe close cousins... Those guys hunting with her at the beginning of Chaos 101 would be good candidates. But them leaving town enforcing Atlanta to be tough doesn't have much evidence behind it. I think Atlanta was always tough because she, like Atalanta, was brought up in the wilderness.)

This is taking a long time and it's 11:15 and I have uni tomorrow so I'm stopping here. Forgive typos are wordy sentences. >__>

Herry's section is by far the longest. But we have a lot of information on his background through episodes with Granny.

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Damn it! I'm going to bed!!


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0_0 You REALLY don't want to read Sahkespeare.....
That was awesome! XD
I say yes to Jay, I think Odie's pretty much All=American but the rest is valid, and I think you make a good point with Herry- I bet his parents died in a crash. As for Atlanta, DITTO! ^^ I believe she would haaave...... two half brothers and 3 girl cousins that were like sisters.

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NOOO NO NOOOOOo. Herry's parents SHOULD NOT have died. 8| I just can't see it. And plus, who's going to take care of him (and perhaps the rest of his siblings) Herry can't take care of his siblings and himself. Sure he's strong. But parents have to be there for moral support. Granny's all the way in the city, so she can't really do much. Everything else is cool tho....despite the fact I haven't read most of it....XD

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Did no one read my analyses?? I didn't agree with Herry's parents dying!

"Observe Herry's first scene in Chaos 101. He's out the back of whoop-whoop, balancing along a fence with a traditional-looking red barn chilling behind him. Now cast your mind to his visit with Granny in Chaos 102.

'We-heh-hell! Look at you! You've grown into quite a strong young man!' *facepinch*

Does this not imply, then, that Granny has not seen Herry in a long time? If he were being raised by her, she wouldn't suddenly say that.

And the fact that she has a house on the outskirts of New Olympia contradicts the farm-scene Herry first appears in. So, no. Herry was not raised by Granny."

And I countered the siblings claim with simple deduction.

"When we see the photos in Granny's house in 'Prisoner Campe', there is no evidence of other grandchildren. And if a grandmother was travelling, why would she take one grandchild and not her others? Perhaps she couldn't afford to take more than one at a time, you might say. One might argue that perhaps she did take Herry's 'siblings', but their photos were elsewhere...

All I can say to that is... Wtf? Why has she got a Herry shrine? She seems much too much like the doting sort anyway (note how she pinched Herry's cheeks in 'Chaos 102' and how she welcomed and catered to (well, she made Herry cater to) the other kids when they'd visit? (This also coincides with what I said about ancient Greek tradition in Jay's section, btw)) to stack all of Herry's photos in one area and hide her other grandchildren's photos in the back room or something. It's just not right!"

I still maintain Herry is an only child. There's no evidence of him having siblings in Granny's home, which is where we SHOULD see evidence... She never asks, "Have you seen your brothers lately?" or says, "Tell your sisters to come see me sometime."

And I really do believe that all of her doting ON Herry is a result of him being her only grandchild.

I rest my case. :)

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*approves!* 83

I almost fell out of my chair squealing when I saw in Chaos 101 that Herry lived on a farm, coz that's where I always thought he'd live. Dunno why. Prolly the big muscley shoulders and arms and stuff. You need them when you work on a farm (Trust me, it's true *flexes her small, sore muscles* XD)

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Xtream Emily wrote:

Did no one read my analyses?? I didn't agree with Herry's parents dying!




I read it. 8| I was disagreeing with Jenn.



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I was also referring to the fact that you still assert that he has siblings.

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